[TAG] 2-cent Tip: Web development bookmarklets
Bradley Chapman
kakadu_croc at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 15 00:20:56 MSD 2004
Ben,
--- Ben Okopnik <ben at callahans.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 09:37:09AM -0700, Bradley Chapman wrote:
> > Ben,
> >
> > --- Ben Okopnik <ben at callahans.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 02:06:03PM -0700, Bradley Chapman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Okopnik,
> > >
> > > [blink] Am I being called on the carpet, or is this an official inquiry?
> > > :) I understand your desire to be polite, Brad, but "politeness" =/=
> > > "formality", which can make people uncomfortable. Since politeness is
> > > supposed to be a social lubricant, I offer to you the thought that undue
> > > formality may well be _impolite,_ given the above.
> > >
> > > "Trumpet in a herd of elephants; crow in the company of cocks;
> > > bleat in a flock of goats."
> > > -- Malayan Proverb
> >
> > Perhaps. But isn't being polite _immediately_ and then being asked not to be far
> > better than being impolite and upsetting the person you are talking to?
>
> Politeness is a _shared_ definition, correct? Even though burping after
> a meal may be correct protocol in some societies, I assure you that it
> would be unwelcome at a State dinner in the White House. Therefore, true
> politeness consists of finding out what the local standards are, then
> fitting yourself inside those parameters. Being willing to accept
> correction after burping at that State dinner does not make it right.
You do have a point.
>
> > I've never heard of politeness =/= formality before, though.
>
> "Does not equal". Or were you disagreeing with the statement itself? I
> can certainly quote many scenarios where formality would be completely
> inappropriate.
The latter. And you've made another excellent point.
>
> > > Hmm. I just tried installing it - it looked quite appealing - and got an
> > > endless stream of "A Web site is requesting permission to install"
> > > boxes, popping up at the rate of about one every 20 seconds, as well as
> > > a progress bar that just sat there. Perhaps Mozilla needs to straighten
> > > out their Web installation procedure, or Chris needs to offer the thing
> > > as a tarball or something; I've had no luck with it.
> >
> > That is very unusual - what version of Mozilla are you using?
>
> Mozilla 1.6
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040312
> Debian/1.6-3
>
> > Chris is not using
> > the JavaScript trigger to load the XPInstaller; he's configured his webserver to
> > send the XPI file with the appropriate MIME type for Mozilla to detect it as an
> > extension.
> >
> > For now, you can right-click and download the file to disk, then drag it into
> the
> > browser (or use File->Open File, select the All Files option, then browse to
> your
> > download directory and open it that way).
>
> Excellent - that worked. Also, for some reason (not that I'm
> complaining, mind you), clicking on the JSlib link now worked as it was
> supposed to. I guess it had to be manually prodded into this XPI thing,
> after which it knew the way home. :) What the hell, I _like_ to
> anthropomorphize computers - it's a model that works. (Guns, too, as
> well as some power tools.)
*shrug*
The only time I anthropomorphize my computer is when it decides not to work
correctly for some reason. Usually Firefox or the kernel is the culprit ;-)
>
> Anyway, this thing looks pretty darn good! I just wish there was a way
> to integrate my "Full screen" functionality into it, but I can live with
> having the Personal toolbar up at the same time as the developer bar.
> Thanks!
You're welcome!
Brad
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