[TAG] More spam than content?

[Neil Youngman]

On Saturday 07 Aug 2004 2:13 am, Rick Moen wrote:
> A couple of afterthoughts to my earlier post, and then comments back in
> reply to Ben.

<SNIP>

> OK, here's the unfortunate part:  It's probably not that simple.
> Googling for "multiple domains" + Mailman, one finds such things as
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-November/015186.html
> .
>
> The person quoted says:
> o  Configure your MTA to handle the new domain
> o  Configure Mailman to use the defined virtual addresses for the
>    new domain's lists.
> o  Configure your Web server to do likewise (because of the Web
>    interface to the mailing lists).
>
> See the joker in that pack?  It's the last item.  If I were to make
> Apache virthost for linuxgazette.net's mailing lists as host
> "linuxgazette.net", that would work -- but only if my Web server also
> hosted all of linuxgazette.net's _other_ Web content.
>
> So, we're back to an observation I made quite a few months ago -- that,
> I realise we were rushed, and we did quite well with the new server
> setup under the circumstances, but it's a damned shame nobody though to
> have the mailing lists defined as being on "lists.linuxgazette.net" via
> an additional "A" record, rather than "linuxgazette.net", because then
> we could easily re-point that "A" record to wherever we want, without
> the public even noticing the switchover.
>
> Unless I'm (still) missing something, we now are in a situation where
> addresses have to change, and so we might as well set up
> "lists.linuxgazette.net" belatedly -- pointing to my 198.144.195.186 IP.

As my ISP trashed my main email address for a while I'm coming to this without 
having caught the whole thread. Also my mail knowledge is limited, so I have 
my excuses ready if the following comments are particularly stupid ;-)

I wonder if redirection and address rewriting might solve a few problems, or 
at least ease a transition here? 

AIUI you can have the MX record pointing at LG.net and address rewriting 
changes all LG.net addresses to lists.LG.net addresses for mailman. It might 
even be possible to have have Exim feed it to mailman without address 
rewriting if mailman isn't too picky. 

If Exim only tweaks the envelope and not the headers then noone is any the 
wiser and you don't have to change the externally visibly address. I don't 
know if this is in fact the case. 

Similarly LG.net/mailman/ can redirect to lists.LG.net/mailman and it will 
only be noticed by a people like us.

Of course you'll still need the additional A record, but it won't be too 
noticeable to the outside world.

> Quoting Ben Okopnik (ben at callahans.org):
> Probably.  If someone can point me to something to study (other than my
> own /etc/exim4/ tree and
> /usr/share/doc/{exim4|exim4-config|exim4-doc-html|exim4-base|exim4-daemon-h
>eavy}, I would be grateful.

What's the problem with the exim4-doc-html? I found it and the comments in the 
standard config file more than adequate to set up a non standard 
configuration, with no previous experience. Of course you shouldn't try to 
read all 50 chapters. Chapters 3 and 7 give you enough to get started and you 
can dip into other chapters when you need more detail. Unusually it really is 
a "fine manual".

Neil