[TAG] DtTerm for Linux?
thomas_adam16 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 21 20:46:04 MSK 2004
--- Mike Orr <mso at oz.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 03:56:54PM +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > There is probably nothing that dtterm doesn't do compared to
> > gnome-terminal or konsole. The only trouble with using either of those
> > that they require a huge amount of libs to go with them -- something I
> > very stubborn NOT to want to install.
> KDE is almost forcing a sub-industry of programs with KDE-like features
> but without the bloat (or slow startup times). Unfortunately it doesn't
> seem to have gotten very far. I'm still using Konsole, because of
I agree -- it is slow, and to be honest not very appealing. I never did
like KDE's use of QT.
> the buttons to switch screens and the menus to change fonts and colors
> on the fly are really convenient... while impatiently waiting several
> seconds for it to start up. But there doesn't seem to be a non-KDE
> equivalent to the clipboard tool (that has a menu to set the selection
> a selection-history item).
I am not installing 45.7MB of extra KDE-bloat to satisfy konsole :) I know
that may seem picky, but on a laptop that has a small harddrive it can
mean all the difference :) On my main PC (a P166), with 64MB RAM, there is
not a hope in hell of running konsole or gnome-terminal.
So I look for other alternatives, Ben's excellent suggestion of mxterm
looks like the way to go, if only I can now get the thing to compile
> > The other point of note is that dtterm uses X/Motif bindings. I am a
> > fan of motif -- think it's the best set of bindings ever (that might
> > explain why I love FVWM so much) and as such, I would love to see
> > something similar.
> Ah, poor, illusioned dude.
Heh, each to their own. As I was saying to Heather, because I ran Linux on
old hardware initially, I was always forced to use low-end spec programs.
When I fist installed Linux (Slackware 2.0), I was presented with twm. I
used that for a whole year before I poked around and found out that
~/.xsession is a nice file to hack with :) You'd be amazed what you can do
with twm :)
Then I switched to RH, which used AnotherLevel (fvwm + M4 pre-processing),
which is what I still use today (I have replaced the M4 with Ruby, but the
effects are still the same). But this emulated motif very well, and still
I then tried KDE/GNOME but they were far too bloaty for my P166, so I fell
back to Fvwm, and it is with fvwm that I shall stay :) This is why I like
motif so :)
-- Thomas Adam
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"<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish
you for all of them at once when you get better. The
experience will probably kill you. :)"
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