[TAG] Re: [Lgang] linuxgazette.net down......

[Thomas Adam]

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 22:41:14 -0500 (COT)
John Karns <jkarns at etb.net.co> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 May 2004, Thomas Adam so eloquently said:
> 
> > I'll have my FVWM article kick-starting by next month's edition as
> > well.

Err, yes... I _did_ say that. :|

> Hey, another fvwm user!  BAC, Thomas, have you experimented with
> running windowmaker applets under fvwm?  I really like a lot of the
> applets WM  offers, (e.g., wmmount), but can't seem to get it to work
> inside of the fvwmbutton module.

Yes, I have. If you're running them from within FvwmButtons, that puts a
slightly yet subtle slant on how things are done, since you'll have to
ensure that a few conditions are set.

Because the WMapplets are from another Window Manager, the hints they
use are somewhat alien to Fvwm pure. Hence, the freedesktop.org people
define EWMH (extended window manager hints). These essentially allow you
to run embedded apps like WMapplets, the KDE kicker, etc.

But I cannot be anymore specific than that since you don't say what is
happening.

> Also, since I installed SuSE 9 on this laptop (fvwm2 ver 2.5.7), the 
> buttonbar no longer works with swallowed apps.  Have you run into any
> of that?  I still haven't visited the 
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Heh, words escape you? The last time I used SuSE was 7.1 pro, and SuSE
used it's own "configuration". However, the syntax has not changed
from 2.5.7 -> 2.5.10 (which is the latest unstable release).

> Lately I read the fvwm stuff from issue #3 and discovered a few things
> that had escaped me, and a few I'd forgotten about, like the ability
> to drag windows between VD's via the pager.  As old as it is, from my 

FvwmPager can do more than you probablu realise. As you say, you can
drag windows to other VD's and pages without even seeing the window
directly. 

> viewpoint, there are still some aspects to fvwm that other wm's never 
> caught up to.  IMO, it's a good compromise between lightweight and the
> heavier DT environs like KDE and Gnome.  However, the cfg process is 
> pretty much manual via edit of .fvwm2rc

And I hope it stays manual. There are some 500+ style options for Fvwm.
There is no way one can enumerate this for a GUI. You wouldn't be able
to convey the options to the user efficiently.

I did look, and even suggest this at one point, but I have come to the
arrangement that it really is not a viable thing to do. There is always
the dotfile generator, but this is *hideously* out of date, and I really
do not suggest you use it.

John, if you like, upload your ~/.fvwm2rc file (or send it to me via
e-mail) and I will have a look at it and fix it for you. I'll also
change the syntax to conform to 2.5.X should there be any discrepencies.

-- Thomas Adam

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