[TAG] Hydrogen fuel (non-Linux)

[Jason Creighton]

On Thu, 20 May 2004 01:01:21 -0700, 
Mike Orr <mso at oz.net> wrote:

> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:27:14PM -0600, Jason Creighton wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:59:48 -0700, 
> > Mike Orr <mso at oz.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Iceland's top hydrogen researcher, Bragi Amason, shows off a
> > > solar-powered hydrogen fan he invented as a demonstration.  
> > > 1) A light bulb (representing the sun) shines on a small solar panel.
> > > 2) The energy electrolyzes water, separating the hydrogen and oxygen.
> > 
> > "energy" here being what? Electricity? If not, what else can
> > "electrolyzes" water? And if so, why not just power the fan directly?
> 
> Of course, but the purpose is to demonstrate hydrogen power, not to
> make the fan work.

WHAT?

I have a major attitude problem with the idea of "demonstrating"
hydrogen power if solar energy would actually work better. I was
thinking that the reason was probably that using hydrogen power actually
got you more power than you started with. And now I realize that I was
kind of asking a loaded question: If the answer wasn't what I thought it
would be, I wouldn't believe it.

So please, tell me there's actually a reason. It'd make me feel better.
(But only if there actually IS a reason)

> > > Bush has set up a research center, although some environmentalists are
> > > skeptical of its commitment given his refusal to increase the
> > > efficiency of SUVs.
> > 
> > Note that Bush couldn't increase the efficency of SUVs if he wanted to.
> > He could ask someone in Congress to submit a bill to increase the
> > requiered efficiency of SUVs, but *he* couldn't do anything, short of
> > something sneaky and underhanded like an executive order.
> 
> True, but his attitude influences Congress even if he doesn't have direct
> power over them.  It discourages them from submitting the bill in the
> first place, knowing he won't sign it.  It takes a lot of work to gather
> enough votes to override a veto.

*nods*

Wasn't thinking about the power of the veto mechanism when I wrote that.
It's near impossible to get enough of a majority (what is it--two
thirds?) to override a veto.

Jason Creighton