SPAM: Re: [TAG] Re: Gentoo Installation

Jimmy O'Regan jimregan at o2.ie
Mon Sep 20 03:22:37 MSD 2004


John Karns wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Jimmy O'Regan so eloquently said:
> 
>> John Karns wrote:
> 
> 
>>> ... and Linux has ncp, which allows us to mount netware volumes.  I 
>>> had ocassion to use it once while converting a Netware 3.10 server to 
>>> marsnwe / Linux.  It worked beautifully.  Ahh, but it was stated "a 
>>> few things which _weren't_ included in Linux" (emphasis added), so 
>>> depending on your time-frame, BSD could could have been there first.  
>>> All the same, ncp support has been in Linux for about as long as _I_ 
>>> can remember.
> 
> 
>> No no, the BSDs also have NCP support. NWFS is Netware's disk 
>> filesystem. A company started a while back called Timponagas (sp?) 
>> which  was founded by a former Netware guy, who wrote code for Linux 
>> to read these disks. The BSD code came later, and most likely used the 
>> Linux code as a reference. But it wasn't included in the kernel; it 
>> was only available as a patch.
> 
> 
> It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me, in that AFAIK, NCP 
> is Netware Core Protocol, which I have always thought to be restricted 
> to the internal protocol used by the Netware DOS redirector to talk to a 
> Novell server; i.e., ipx/spx.  I didn't think it had anything to do with 
> the filesystem.  But the comments included with the Linux kernel 
> configuration help text seem to cloud the issue a little bit, saying:
> 
> NCP file system support (to mount NetWare volumes) CONFIG_NCP_FS
>   NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) is a protocol that runs over IPX and is
>   used by Novell NetWare clients to talk to file servers.  It is to
>   IPX what NFS is to TCP/IP, if that helps.  Saying Y here allows you
>   to mount NetWare file server volumes and to access them just like
>   any other Unix directory.
> 
> So they call it ncpfs as opposed to nwfs.  I would tend to think that 
> Linux NCP support would apply more to including ipx & spx support in the 
> kernel.
> 
Repeated, with added emphasis: NWFS is Netware's *disk* filesystem. Not 
a network system; an on-disk, physical filesystem, like Ext2 or FAT.




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